Datasheet Operational Amplifiers Ground Sense Operational Amplifiers LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx LM2902xxx General Description Key Specifications Operating Supply Voltage (Single Supply): 3.0V to 32.0V Operating Temperature Range: LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to +125C LM2902xxx: -40C to +125C Input Offset Voltage: 4.5mV (Max) Input Bias Current: 20nA (Typ) LM358xxx and LM2904xxx series are dual ground sense operational amplifiers. LM324xxx and LM2902xxx series are quad. These have features of low current consumption and wide operating voltage range from 3V to 32V (single power supply). Features Operable with a Single Power Supply Wide Operating Supply Voltage Range Input/output Ground Sense High Large Signal Voltage Gain W(Typ) x D(Typ) x H(Max) Packages SOP8 SOP-J8 SSOP-B8 TSSOP-B8 TSSOP-B8J MSOP8 SOP14 SOP-J14 SSOP-B14 TSSOP-B14J Applications Current Sense Application Buffer Application Amplifier Active Filter Consumer Electronics 5.00mm x 6.20mm x 1.71mm 4.90mm x 6.00mm x 1.65mm 3.00mm x 6.40mm x 1.35mm 3.00mm x 6.40mm x 1.20mm 3.00mm x 4.90mm x 1.10mm 2.90mm x 4.00mm x 0.90mm 8.70mm x 6.20mm x 1.71mm 8.65mm x 6.00mm x 1.65mm 5.00mm x 6.40mm x 1.35mm 5.00mm x 6.40mm x 1.20mm Pin Configuration LM358F, LM2904F LM358FJ, LM2904FJ LM358FV, LM2904FV LM358FVT, LM2904FVT LM358FVJ, LM2904FVJ LM358FVM, LM2904FVM OUT1 -IN1 : SOP8 : SOP-J8 : SSOP-B8 : TSSOP-B8 : TSSOP-B8J : MSOP8 1 2 +IN1 3 VEE 4 8 CH1 - 7 + + CH2 + - VCC OUT2 6 -IN2 5 +IN2 Product structureSilicon monolithic integrated circuit Pin Name 1 OUT1 2 -IN1 3 +IN1 4 VEE 5 +IN2 6 -IN2 7 OUT2 8 VCC This product has no designed protection against radioactive rays. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. 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TSZ2211114001 Pin No. 1/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM324F, LM2902F LM324FJ, LM2902FJ LM324FV, LM2902FV LM324FVJ, LM2902FVJ LM2904xxx : SOP14 : SOP-J14 : SSOP-B14 : TSSOP-B14J OUT1 1 -IN1 2 Datasheet LM2902xxx Pin No. Pin Name 1 OUT1 2 -IN1 3 +IN1 14 OUT4 CH1 - + CH4 + - 13 -IN4 4 VCC +IN1 3 12 +IN4 5 +IN2 VCC 4 11 VEE 6 -IN2 7 OUT2 +IN2 5 10 +IN3 8 OUT3 9 -IN3 10 +IN3 -IN2 6 - + CH2 + CH3 OUT2 7 9 -IN3 8 OUT3 11 VEE 12 +IN4 13 -IN4 14 OUT4 Absolute Maximum Ratings (TA=25C) LM358xxx Rating LM324xxx LM2904xxx 36 (Note 1,9) 0.68 - 0.68(Note 1,9) - SOP-J8 0.67(Note 2,9) - 0.67(Note 2,9) - SSOP-B8 0.62(Note 3,9) - 0.62(Note 3,9) - TSSOP-B8 0.62(Note 3,9) - 0.62(Note 3,9) - TSSOP-B8J 0.58(Note 4,9) - 0.58(Note 4,9) - MSOP8 0.58(Note 4,9) - 0.58(Note 4,9) - SOP14 - 0.56(Note 5,9) - 0.56(Note 5,9) SOP-J14 - 1.02(Note 6,9) - 1.02 (Note 6,9) SSOP-B14 - 0.87(Note 7,9) - 0.87(Note 7,9) - (Note 8,9) - 0.85(Note 8,9) Symbol Parameter Supply Voltage VCC-VEE SOP8 Power Dissipation PD TSSOP-B14J 0.85 LM2902xxx Unit V W Differential Input Voltage (Note 10) VID 36 V Input Common-mode Voltage Range VICM V mA V Current(Note 11) II (VEE-0.3) to (VEE+36) 10 Operating Supply Voltage Vopr 3.0 to 32.0 Operating Temperature Range Topr Storage Temperature Range Tstg -55 to +150 C Maximum Junction Temperature Tjmax 150 C Input -40 to +85 -40 to +125 C (Note 1) Reduce by 5.5mW per 1C above 25C. (Note 2) Reduce by 5.4mW per 1C above 25C. (Note 3) Reduce by 5.0mW per 1C above 25C. (Note 4) Reduce by 4.7mW per 1C above 25C. (Note 5) Reduce by 4.5mW per 1C above 25C. (Note 6) Reduce by 8.2mW per 1C above 25C. (Note 7) Reduce by 7.0mW per 1C above 25C. (Note 8) Reduce by 6.8mW per 1C above 25C. (Note 9) Mounted on an FR4 glass epoxy PCB 70mmx70mmx1.6mm (Copper foil area less than 3%). (Note 10) Differential Input Voltage is the voltage difference between the inverting and non-inverting inputs. The input pin voltage is set to more than VEE. (Note 11) An excessive input current will flow when input voltages of less than VEE-0.6V are applied. The input current can be set to less than the rated current by adding a limiting resistor. Caution: Operating the IC over the absolute maximum ratings may damage the IC. The damage can either be a short circuit between pins or an open circuit between pins and the internal circuitry. Therefore, it is important to consider circuit protection measures, such as adding a fuse, in case the IC is operated over the absolute maximum ratings. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 2/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Electrical Characteristics LM358xxx, LM2904xxx (Unless otherwise specified VCC=+5V, VEE=0V) Parameter Symbol Input Offset Voltage(Note 12,13) Input Offset Voltage Drift(Note 12) VIO VIO/T Limits Temperature Range Min Typ Max 25C - 1 4.5 Full Range - - 5 - - 6 - 25C - 2 50 Full Range - - 200 25C - 20 250 Full Range - - 300 25C - 0.6 1.2 Full Range - - 1.5 25C 3.5 - - Full Range 27 28 - - 5 20 25 100 - 88 100 - Unit mV Condition VOUT=1.4V VCC=5 to 30V, VOUT=1.4V V/C VOUT=1.4V Input Offset Current(Note 12,13) IIO Input Bias Current(Note 12,13) IB Supply Current(Note 13) ICC Maximum Output Voltage (High)(Note 13) VOH (Low)(Note 13) VOL Full Range AV 25C Input Common-mode Voltage Range VICM 25C 0 - 3.5 V VICM=VEE to (VCC-1.5V) VOUT=1.4V Input Common-mode Voltage Range (VEE side) (Note 14) VICM Full Range - 0.1 - V VOUT=1.4V Common-mode Rejection Ratio CMRR 25C 70 80 - dB VOUT=1.4V Power Supply Rejection Ratio PSRR 25C 65 100 - dB VCC=5 to 30V Output Source Current(Note 13,15) ISOURCE 25C 20 30 - Full Range 10 - - mA V+IN=1V, V-IN=0V VOUT=0V, Short Current 25C 20 27 - Full Range 5 - - mA V+IN=0V, V-IN=1V VOUT=5V, Short Current 25C 20 50 - A V+IN=0V, V-IN=1V VOUT=200mV dB f=1kHz, Input Referred Maximum Output Voltage Large Signal Voltage Gain Output Sink Current(Note 13,15) ISINK nA VOUT=1.4V nA VOUT=1.4V mA RL=, All Op-Amps V mV CS 25C - 120 - Slew Rate SR 25C - 0.3 - GBW 25C - 0.8 - Phase Margin 25C - 80 - deg Input Referred Noise Voltage VN 25C - 40 - nV/ Hz (Note 12) (Note 13) (Note 14) (Note 15) VCC=30V, RL=10k RL= V/mV R 2k, V =15V L CC dB VOUT=1.4 to 11.4V Channel Separation Gain Bandwidth RL=2k VCC=15V, Av=0dB RL=2k, CL=100pF VCC=15V, VEE=-15V MHz RL=2k, CL=100pF V/s Av=40dB VCC=15V, VEE=-15V RS=100, VIN=0V, f=1kHz Absolute value LM358xxx Full Range: TA=-40C to +85C, LM2904xxx Full Range: TA=-40C to +125C LM2904xxx only. Consider the power dissipation of the IC under high temperature when selecting the output current value. There may be a case where the output current value is reduced due to the rise in IC temperature caused by the heat generated inside the IC. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 3/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Electrical Characteristics - continued LM324xxx, LM2902xxx (Unless otherwise specified VCC=+5V, VEE=0V) Parameter Symbol Input Offset Voltage(Note 16,17) Input Offset Voltage Drift(Note 17) VIO VIO/T Limits Temperature Range Min Typ Max 25C - 1 4.5 Full Range - - 5 - - 6 - 25C - 2 50 Full Range - - 200 25C - 20 250 Full Range - - 300 25C - 1 2 Full Range - - 2.5 25C 3.5 - - Full Range 27 28 - - 5 20 25 100 - 88 100 - Unit mV Condition VOUT=1.4V VCC=5 to 30V, VOUT=1.4V V/C VOUT=1.4V Input Offset Current(Note 16,17) IIO Input Bias Current(Note 16,17) IB Supply Current(Note 17) ICC Maximum Output Voltage (High)(Note 17) VOH (Low)(Note 17) VOL Full Range AV 25C Input Common-mode Voltage Range VICM 25C 0 - 3.5 V VICM=VEE to (VCC-1.5V) VOUT=1.4V Input Common-mode Voltage Range (VEE side) (Note 18) VICM Full Range - 0.1 - V VOUT=1.4V Common-mode Rejection Ratio CMRR 25C 70 80 - dB VOUT=1.4V Power Supply Rejection Ratio PSRR 25C 65 100 - dB VCC=5 to 30V Output Source Current(Note 17,19) ISOURCE 25C 20 30 - Full Range 10 - - mA V+IN=1V, V-IN=0V VOUT=0V, Short Current 25C 20 27 - Full Range 5 - - mA V+IN=0V, V-IN=1V VOUT=5V, Short Current 25C 20 50 - A V+IN=0V, V-IN=1V VOUT=200mV dB f=1kHz, Input Referred Maximum Output Voltage Large Signal Voltage Gain Output Sink Current(Note 17,19) ISINK nA VOUT=1.4V nA VOUT=1.4V mA RL=, All Op-Amps V mV CS 25C - 120 - Slew Rate SR 25C - 0.3 - GBW 25C - 0.8 - Phase Margin 25C - 80 - deg Input Referred Noise Voltage VN 25C - 40 - nV/ Hz (Note 16) (Note 17) (Note 18) (Note 19) VCC=30V, RL=10k RL= V/mV R 2k, V =15V L CC dB VOUT=1.4 to 11.4V Channel Separation Gain Bandwidth RL=2k VCC=15V, Av=0dB RL=2k, CL=100pF VCC=15V, VEE=-15V MHz RL=2k, CL=100pF V/s Av=40dB VCC=15V, VEE=-15V RS=100, VIN=0V, f=1kHz Absolute value LM324xxx Full Range: TA=-40C to +85C, LM2902xxx Full Range: TA=-40C to +125C LM2902xxx only. Consider the power dissipation of the IC under high temperature when selecting the output current value. There may be a case where the output current value is reduced due to the rise in IC temperature caused by the heat generated inside the IC. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 4/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Description of Electrical Characteristics Below are the descriptions of the relevant electrical terms used in this datasheet. Items and symbols used are also shown. Note that item names, symbols, and their meanings may differ from those of another manufacturer's document or general document. 1. Absolute Maximum Ratings Absolute maximum rating items indicate the conditions which must not be exceeded. Application of voltage in excess of the absolute maximum rating or use out of absolute maximum rated temperature environment may cause deterioration of electrical characteristics. (1) Supply Voltage (VCC/VEE) Indicates the maximum voltage that can be applied between the VCC pin and VEE pin without deterioration of characteristics of internal circuit. (2) Differential Input Voltage (VID) Indicates the maximum voltage that can be applied between the non-inverting and inverting pins without damaging the IC. (3) Input Common-mode Voltage Range (VICM) Indicates the maximum voltage that can be applied to the non-inverting and inverting pins without deterioration or destruction of electrical characteristics. Input common-mode voltage range of the maximum ratings does not assure normal operation of IC. For normal operation, use the IC within the input common-mode voltage range characteristics. (4) Power Dissipation (PD) Indicates the power that can be consumed by the IC when mounted on a specific board at the ambient temperature 25C (normal temperature). As for package product, PD is determined by the temperature that can be permitted by the IC in the package (maximum junction temperature) and the thermal resistance of the package. 2. Electrical Characteristics (1) Input Offset Voltage (VIO) Indicates the voltage difference between non-inverting pin and inverting pin. It can be translated to the input voltage difference required for setting the output voltage to 0V. (2) Input Offset Voltage Drift (VIO/T) Denotes the ratio of the input offset voltage fluctuation to the ambient temperature fluctuation. (3) Input Offset Current (IIO) Indicates the difference of input bias current between the non-inverting and inverting pins. (4) Input Bias Current (IB) Indicates the current that flows into or out of the input pin. It is defined by the average of input bias currents at the non-inverting and inverting pins. (5) Supply Current (ICC) Indicates the current that flows within the IC under specified no-load conditions. (6) Maximum Output Voltage (High) / Maximum Output Voltage (Low) (VOH/VOL) Indicates the voltage range of the output under specified load condition. It is typically divided into maximum output voltage high and low. Maximum output voltage high indicates the upper limit of output voltage. Maximum output voltage low indicates the lower limit. (7) Large Signal Voltage Gain (AV) Indicates the amplification rate (gain) of output voltage against the voltage difference between non-inverting pin and inverting pin. It is normally the amplification rate (gain) with reference to DC voltage. Av = (Output Voltage) / (Differential Input Voltage) (8) Input Common-mode Voltage Range (VICM) Indicates the input voltage range at which IC normally operates. (9) Common-mode Rejection Ratio (CMRR) Indicates the ratio of fluctuation of input offset voltage when the input common-mode voltage is changed. It is normally the fluctuation of DC. CMRR = (Change of Input Common-mode Voltage)/(Input Offset Fluctuation) www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 5/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx (10) Power Supply Rejection Ratio (PSRR) Indicates the ratio of fluctuation of input offset voltage when supply voltage is changed. It is normally the fluctuation of DC. PSRR= (Change of Power Supply Voltage)/( Input Offset Fluctuation) (11) Output Source Current/ Output Sink Current (ISOURCE / ISINK) The maximum current that the IC can output under specific output conditions. The output source current indicates the current flowing out from the IC, and the output sink current indicates the current flowing into the IC. (12) Channel Separation (CS) Indicates the fluctuation in the output voltage of the driven channel with reference to the change of output voltage of the channel which is not driven. (13) Slew Rate (SR) Indicates the rate of the change of the output voltage with time when a step input signal is applied. (14) Gain Bandwidth (GBW) The product of the open-loop voltage gain and the frequency at which the voltage gain decreases 6dB/octave. (15) Phase Margin () Indicates the margin of phase from 180 degree phase lag at unity gain frequency. (16) Input Referred Noise Voltage (VN) Indicates a noise voltage generated inside the operational amplifier equivalent by ideal voltage source connected in series with input pin. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 6/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves 1.6 1.6 1.2 1.2 85C Supply Current [mA] Supply Current [mA] LM358xxx, LM2904xxx 25C 0.8 -40C 125C 0.4 0.8 5V 3V 0.4 0.0 0.0 0 10 20 30 -50 40 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 Supply Voltage [V] Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 1. Supply Current vs Supply Voltage Figure 2. Supply Current vs Ambient Temperature 150 5 Maximum Output Voltage High [V] 40 Maximum Output Voltage High [V] 36V 125C 30 85C 25C 20 -40C 10 4 3 2 1 0 0 0 10 20 30 40 -50 -25 Supply Voltage [V] 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 3. Maximum Output Voltage (High) vs Supply Voltage (RL=10k) Figure 4. Maximum Output Voltage (High) vs Ambient Temperature (VCC=5V, RL=10k) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 7/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued 5 50 4 40 Output Source Current [mA] Maximum Output Voltage High [V] LM358xxx, LM2904xxx 3 2 1 -40C 25C 30 20 85C 125C 10 0 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 0 150 0 1 4 5 Figure 6. Output Source Current vs Output Voltage (VCC=5V) 50 50 40 40 Output Sink Current [mA] Output Source Current [mA] Figure 5. Maximum Output Voltage (High) vs Ambient Temperature (VCC=5V, RL=2k) 30 5V 36V 3 Output Voltage [V] Ambient Temperature [C] 3V 20 2 10 25C 30 85C 125C 20 -40C 10 0 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 0 150 0 Ambient Temperature [C] 1 2 3 4 5 Output Voltage [V] Figure 7. Output Source Current vs Ambient Temperature (VOUT=0V) Figure 8. Output Sink Current vs Output Voltage (VCC=5V) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 8/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued LM358xxx, LM2904xxx 102 100 50 36V 30 Low Level Sink Current [mA] Output Sink Current [mA] 40 5V 20 3V 10 0 -50 1 10 10 125C 1010 85C 25C 100-1 -40C 100-2 100-3 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 0 0.5 Ambient Temperature [C] 1.5 2 Output Voltage [V] Figure 9. Output Sink Current vs Ambient Temperature (VOUT=VCC) Figure 10. Low Level Sink Current vs Output Voltage (VCC=5V) 80 Low Level Sink Current [A] 1010 Low Level Sink Current [mA] 1 125C 25C 85C 100-1 -40C 100-2 36V 60 5V 3V 40 20 0 0 0.25 0.5 0.75 1 -50 -25 Output Voltage [V] 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 12. Low Level Sink Current vs Ambient Temperature (VOUT=200mV) Figure 11. Low Level Sink Current vs Output Voltage (Enlarged view) (VCC=5V) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 9/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued 4 4 3 3 2 2 Input Offset Voltage [mV] Input Offset Voltage [mV] LM358xxx, LM2904xxx 1 85C 125C 0 -1 25C -40C -2 1 36V 0 -1 5V 3V -2 -3 -3 -4 -4 0 10 20 30 -50 40 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Supply Voltage [V] Figure 13. Input Offset Voltage vs Supply Voltage (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) Figure 14. Input Offset Voltage vs Ambient Temperature (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) 100 50 90 80 -40C Input Bias Current [nA] Input Bias Current [nA] 40 30 25C 20 85C 70 60 50 40 3V 30 5V 20 10 125C 36V 10 0 0 0 10 20 30 40 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Supply Voltage [V] Figure 16. Input Bias Current vs Ambient Temperature (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) Figure 15. Input Bias Current vs Supply Voltage (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 10/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued LM358xxx, LM2904xxx 100 4 90 3 2 Input Offset Voltage [mV] Input Bias Current [nA] 80 70 60 50 40 30 1 0 -1 25C -40C -2 20 -3 10 0 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 -4 150 -1 1 2 3 4 Common-mode Input Voltage [V] Figure 17. Input Bias Current vs Ambient Temperature (VCC=30V, VICM=28V, EK=-1.4V) Figure 18. Input Offset Voltage vs Common-mode Input Voltage (VCC=5V) 10 10 8 8 6 6 4 0 Ambient Temperature [C] -40C 85C Input Offset Current [nA] Input Offset Current [nA] 125C 85C 125C 2 0 -2 25C -4 4 2 5V 36V 0 3V -2 -4 -6 -6 -8 -8 -10 5 -10 0 10 20 30 40 -50 -25 Supply Voltage [V] 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 20. Input Offset Current vs Ambient Temperature (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) Figure 19. Input Offset Current vs Supply Voltage (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 11/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued 0.6 0.6 0.5 0.5 125C 85C 0.4 Slew Rate Fall [V/us] 0.3 -40C 0.2 25C 85C 0.3 25C 0.1 0.0 0.0 10 20 30 0 40 10 20 30 40 Supply Voltage [V] Supply Voltage [V] Figure 21. Slew Rate Rise vs Supply Voltage (RL=2k, Low to High) Figure 22. Slew Rate Fall vs Supply Voltage (RL=2k, High to Low) 100 80 80 240 Phase 60 Voltage Gain [dB] Input Referred Noise Voltage [nV/Hz] -40C 0.2 0.1 0 125C 0.4 60 40 180 Gain 40 120 20 20 0 101 60 0 102 103 104 0 10 2 Frequency [Hz] Figure 23. Input Referred Noise Voltage vs Frequency (VCC=5V) Phase [deg] Slew Rate Rise [V/us] LM358xxx, LM2904xxx 10 3 10 10 10 Frequency [Hz] 4 5 6 10 7 10 8 Figure 24. Voltage Gain, Phase vs Frequency (VCC=30V, RL=2k, CL=100pF) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 12/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued LM358xxx, LM2904xxx 140 Large Signal Voltage Gain [dB] Large Signal Voltage Gain [dB] 140 85C 120 25C 125C 100 -40C 80 36V 120 5V 100 3V 80 60 60 0 10 20 30 40 -50 -25 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Supply Voltage [V] Figure 25. Large Signal Voltage Gain vs Supply Voltage (RL=2k) Figure 26. Large Signal Voltage Gain vs Ambient Temperature (RL=2k) 120 100 Common-mode Rejection Ratio [dB] 120 Common-mode Rejection Ratio [dB] 0 -40C 25C 80 85C 125C 60 100 36V 80 5V 3V 60 40 40 0 10 20 30 -50 40 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Supply Voltage [V] Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 27. Common-mode Rejection Ratio vs Supply Voltage Figure 28. Common-mode Rejection Ratio vs Ambient Temperature (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 13/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx LM2902xxx Datasheet Typical Performance Curves - continued LM358xxx, LM2904xxx Power Supply Rejection Ratio [dB] 140 120 100 80 60 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 29. Power Supply Rejection Ratio vs Ambient Temperature (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM358xxx: -40C to +85C LM2904xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 14/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued LM324xxx, LM2902xxx 2.0 2.0 36V 25C 1.6 1.6 Supply Current [mA] Supply Current [mA] 85C 1.2 -40C 0.8 125C 5V 1.2 3V 0.8 0.4 0.4 0.0 0.0 0 10 20 30 -50 40 -25 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Supply Voltage [V] Figure 31. Supply Current vs Ambient Temperature Figure 30. 5 Maximum Output Voltage High [V] 40 Maximum Output Voltage High [V] 0 125C 30 85C 25 20 -40C 10 4 3 2 1 0 0 0 10 20 30 40 -50 -25 Supply Voltage [V] 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 33. Maximum Output Voltage (High) vs Ambient Temperature (VCC=5V, RL=10k) Figure 32. Maximum Output Voltage (High) vs Supply Voltage (RL=10k) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2902xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 15/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued 5 50 4 40 Output Source Current [mA] Maximum Output Voltage High [V] LM324xxx, LM2902xxx 3 2 1 -40C 25C 30 20 85C 125C 10 0 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 0 150 0 1 Ambient Temperature [C] 50 40 40 Output Sink Current [mA] Output Source Current [mA] 4 5 Figure 35. Output Source Current vs Output Voltage (VCC=5V) 50 30 5V 36V 3 Output Voltage [V] Figure 34. Maximum Output Voltage (High) vs Ambient Temperature (VCC=5V, RL=2k) 3V 20 2 10 25C 30 85C 125C 20 -40C 10 0 0 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 0 1 Ambient Temperature [C] 2 3 4 5 Output Voltage [V] Figure 36. Output Source Current vs Ambient Temperature (VOUT=0V) Figure 37. Output Sink Current vs Output Voltage (VCC=5V) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2902xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 16/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued LM324xxx, LM2902xxx 102 100 50 36V 30 Low Level Sink Current [mA] Output Sink Current [mA] 40 5V 20 3V 10 0 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 1 10 10 125C 1010 85C 25C 100-1 -40C 100-2 100-3 150 0 0.5 Ambient Temperature [C] 1.5 2 Output Voltage [V] Figure 38. Output Sink Current vs Ambient Temperature (VOUT=VCC) Figure 39. Low Level Sink Current vs Output Voltage (VCC=5V) 1010 80 Low Level Sink Current [A] Low Level Sink Current [mA] 1 125C 25C 85C 100-1 -40C 100-2 0 0.25 0.5 0.75 36V 60 5V 3V 40 20 0 1 -50 -25 Output Voltage [V] 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 41. Low Level Sink Current vs Ambient Temperature (VOUT=200mV) Figure 40. Low Level Sink Current vs Output Voltage (Enlarged view) (VCC=5V) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2902xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 17/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued 4 4 3 3 2 2 Input Offset Voltage [mV] Input Offset Voltage [mV] LM324xxx, LM2902xxx 1 85C 125C 0 -1 25C -40C -2 1 36V 0 -1 3V 5V -2 -3 -3 -4 -4 0 10 20 30 -50 40 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 Supply Voltage [V] Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 42. Input Offset Voltage vs Supply Voltage (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) Figure 43. Input Offset Voltage vs Ambient Temperature (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) 150 100 50 90 80 -40C Input Bias Current [nA] Input Bias Current [nA] 40 30 25C 20 85C 70 60 50 40 3V 5V 30 20 10 125C 36V 10 0 0 0 10 20 30 40 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 Supply Voltage [V] Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 44. Input Bias Current vs Supply Voltage (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) Figure 45. Input Bias Current vs Ambient Temperature (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) 150 (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2902xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 18/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued LM324xxx, LM2902xxx 100 4 90 3 2 Input Offset Voltage [mV] Input Bias Current [nA] 80 70 60 50 40 30 1 0 -1 25C -40C -2 20 -3 10 0 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 -4 150 -1 0 Ambient Temperature [C] 8 8 6 6 85C Input Offset Current [nA] 10 -40C 2 3 4 5 Figure 47. Input Offset Voltage vs Common-mode Input Voltage (VCC=5V) 10 4 1 Common-mode Input Voltage [V] Figure 46. Input Bias Current vs Ambient Temperature (VCC=30V, VICM=28V, EK=-1.4V) Input Offset Current [nA] 125C 85C 125C 2 0 -2 25C -4 4 2 36V 5V 0 3V -2 -4 -6 -6 -8 -8 -10 -10 0 10 20 30 -50 40 -25 Supply Voltage [V] 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 49. Input Offset Current vs Ambient Temperature (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) Figure 48. Input Offset Current vs Supply Voltage (VICM=VCC/2, EK=-VCC/2) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2902xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 19/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued 0.6 0.6 0.5 0.5 125C 85C 0.4 Slew Rate Fall [V/us] 0.3 -40C 0.2 25C 0.4 85C 0.3 25C -40C 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.0 0.0 0 10 20 30 0 40 10 20 30 40 Supply Voltage [V] Supply Voltage [V] Figure 50. Slew Rate Rise vs Supply Voltage (RL=2k, Low to High) Figure 51. Slew Rate Fall vs Supply Voltage (RL=2k, High to Low) 100 80 80 240 Phase 60 Voltage Gain [dB] Input Referred Noise Voltage [nV/Hz] 125C 60 40 180 Gain 40 120 20 20 0 60 0 101 102 103 104 0 10 2 Frequency [Hz] Figure 52. Input Referred Noise Voltage vs Frequency (VCC=5V) Phase [deg] Slew Rate Rise [V/us] LM324xxx, LM2902xxx 10 3 10 10 10 Frequency [Hz] 4 5 6 10 7 10 8 Figure 53. Voltage Gain, Phase vs Frequency (VCC=30V, RL=2k, CL=100pF) (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2902xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 20/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Typical Performance Curves - continued LM324xxx, LM2902xxx 140 Large Signal Voltage Gain [dB] Large Signal Voltage Gain [dB] 140 85C 120 25C 125C 100 -40C 80 36V 120 5V 100 3V 80 60 60 0 10 20 30 40 -50 -25 Supply Voltage [V] 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 54. Large Signal Voltage Gain vs Supply Voltage (RL=2k) Figure 55. Large Signal Voltage Gain vs Ambient Temperature (RL=2k) 120 100 Common-mode Rejection Ratio [dB] 120 Common-mode Rejection Ratio [dB] 0 -40C 25C 80 85C 125C 60 100 36V 80 5V 3V 60 40 40 0 10 20 30 -50 40 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Supply Voltage [V] Figure 57. Common-mode Rejection Ratio vs Ambient Temperature Figure 56. Common-mode Rejection Ratio vs Supply Voltage (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2902xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 21/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx LM2902xxx Datasheet Typical Performance Curves - continued LM324xxx, LM2902xxx Power Supply Rejection Ratio [dB] 140 120 100 80 60 -50 -25 0 25 50 75 100 125 150 Ambient Temperature [C] Figure 58. Power Supply Rejection Ratio vs Ambient Temperature (*) The above data are measurement value of typical sample, they are not guaranteed. LM324xxx: -40C to +85C LM2902xxx: -40C to 125C www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 22/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Application Information NULL method condition for Test Circuit 1 VCC, VEE, EK, VICM Unit: V Parameter VF SW1 SW2 SW3 VCC VEE EK VICM Calculation Input Offset Voltage VF1 ON ON OFF 5 to 30 0 -1.4 0 1 Input Offset Current VF2 OFF OFF OFF 5 0 -1.4 0 2 VF3 OFF ON OFF 5 0 -1.4 0 3 VF4 ON OFF ON ON ON 15 0 0 4 Input Bias Current -1.4 VF5 Large Signal Voltage Gain VF6 Common-mode Rejection Ratio (Input Common-mode Voltage Range) -11.4 0 VF7 ON ON OFF 5 0 -1.4 VF8 5 3.5 VF9 5 Power Supply Rejection Ratio ON ON OFF 0 VF10 -1.4 0 6 30 - Calculation 1. Input Offset Voltage (VIO) VIO = |VF1| |VF2 - VF1| 2. Input Offset Current (IIO) IIO = 3. Input Bias Current (IB) IB = 4. Large Signal Voltage Gain (AV) Av = 20Log 5. Common-mode Rejection Ratio (CMRR) RI x (1 + RF/RS) [A] |VF4 - VF3| [A] 2 x RI x (1 + RF/RS) EK x (1+RF/RS) |VF6 - VF5| CMRR = 20Log 6. Power Supply Rejection Ratio (PSRR) [V] 1 + RF/RS PSRR = 20Log [dB] VICM x (1+RF/RS) |VF8 - VF7| VCC x (1+ RF/RS) |VF10 - VF9| [dB] [dB] 0.1F RF=50k SW1 RS=50 500k VCC RI=10k VOUT 0.1F 15V EK 500k DUT SW3 RS=50 1000pF RI=10k RL VICM 50k NULL V VF SW2 -15V VEE Figure 59. Test Circuit 1 (One Channel Only) www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 23/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Application Information - continued Switch Condition for Test Circuit 2 Parameter SW1 SW2 SW3 SW4 SW5 SW6 SW7 SW8 SW9 SW10 SW11 SW12 SW13 Supply Current OFF OFF OFF ON OFF ON OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF Maximum Output Voltage(High) OFF OFF ON OFF OFF ON OFF OFF OFF OFF ON OFF Maximum Output Voltage(Low) OFF OFF ON OFF OFF ON OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF ON OFF Output Source Current OFF OFF ON OFF OFF ON OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF ON Output Sink Current OFF OFF ON OFF OFF ON OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF ON Slew Rate OFF OFF OFF ON ON ON OFF OFF OFF Gain Bandwidth Product OFF ON OFF OFF ON ON OFF OFF ON ON OFF OFF OFF Input Referred Noise Voltage ON OFF OFF OFF ON ON OFF OFF OFF OFF ON OFF OFF OFF ON ON OFF OFF SW4 R2 SW5 VCC SW1 SW2 SW3 SW6 RS SW7 SW9 SW8 SW10 SW11 SW12 SW13 R1 VEE C V-IN RL V+IN CL VOUT Figure 60. Test Circuit 2 (Each Op-Amp) Output Voltage Input Voltage SR=V/t VH VH 90% V 10% VL VL t t t Input Wave Output Wave Figure 61. Slew Rate Input and Output Wave VCC VCC R1//R2 R1// R2 VEE VEE R1 VIN R2 V VOUT1 = 1VRMS R1 CS = 20 x log R2 V VOUT2 100 x VOUT1 VOUT2 Figure 62. Test Circuit 3 (Channel Separation) (R1=1k,R2=100k) www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 24/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Application Information - continued 1. Unused Circuits It is recommended to apply the connection (see Figure 63) and set the non-inverting input pin at a potential within the Input Common-mode Voltage Range (VICM) for any unused circuit. Keep this potential 2. Input Voltage Regardless of the supply voltage, applying VEE+36V to the input pin is possible without causing deterioration of the electrical characteristics or destruction. However, this does not ensure normal circuit operation. Please note that the circuit operates normally only when the input voltage is within the common mode input voltage range of the electric characteristics. in VICM VCC VICM VEE Figure 63. The Example of Application Circuit for Unused Op-amp 3. Power Supply (Single/Dual) The operational amplifiers operate when the voltage supplied is between VCC pin and VEE pin. Therefore, the single supply operational amplifiers can be used as dual supply operational amplifiers as well. 4. IC Handling When pressure is applied to the IC through warp on the printed circuit board, the characteristics may fluctuate due to the piezo effect. Be careful with the warp on the printed circuit board. 5. The IC Destruction Caused by Capacitive Load The IC may be damaged when VCC pin and VEE pin is shorted with the charged output pin capacitor. When IC is used as an operational amplifier or as an application circuit where oscillation is not activated by an output capacitor, output capacitor must be kept below 0.1F in order to prevent the damage mentioned above. I/O Equivalent Circuit Symbol Pin No. +IN -IN LM358xxx, LM2904xxx: 2,3,5,6 LM324xxx, LM2902xxx: 2,3,5,6,9,10,12,13 Equivalent Circuit VCC OUT LM358xxx, LM2904xxx: 1,7 LM324xxx, LM2902xxx: 1,7,8,14 OUT VEE VCC VCC LM358xxx, LM2904xxx: 8 LM324xxx, LM2902xxx: 4 VEE www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 25/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Examples of Circuit Voltage Follower Voltage gain is 0dB. VCC Using this circuit, the output voltage (VOUT) is configured to be equal to the input voltage (VIN). This circuit also stabilizes the output voltage (VOUT) due to high input impedance and low output impedance. Computation for output voltage (VOUT) is shown below. VOUT VIN VOUT=VIN VEE Figure 64. Voltage Follower Circuit Inverting Amplifier R2 For inverting amplifier, input voltage (VIN) is amplified by a voltage gain and depends on the ratio of R1 and R2. The out-of-phase output voltage is shown in the next expression VCC R1 VIN VOUT VOUT=-(R2/R1)VIN This circuit has input impedance equal to R1. R1//R2 VEE Figure 65. Inverting Amplifier Circuit Non-inverting Amplifier R1 R2 For non-inverting amplifier, input voltage (VIN) is amplified by a voltage gain, which depends on the ratio of R1 and R2. The output voltage (VOUT) is in-phase with the input voltage (VIN) and is shown in the next expression. VCC VOUT VIN VOUT=(1 + R2/R1)VIN Effectively, this circuit has high input impedance since its input side is the same as that of the operational amplifier. VEE Figure 66. Non-inverting Amplifier Circuit www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 26/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Power Dissipation Power dissipation (total loss) indicates the power that the IC can consume at TA=25C (normal temperature). As the IC consumes power, it heats up, causing its temperature to rise above the ambient temperature. The allowable temperature that the IC can accept is limited. This depends on the circuit configuration, manufacturing process, and consumable power. Power dissipation is determined by the allowable temperature within the IC (maximum junction temperature) and the thermal resistance of the package used (heat dissipation capability). Maximum junction temperature is typically equal to the maximum storage temperature. The heat generated through the consumption of power by the IC radiates from the mold resin or lead frame of the package. Thermal resistance, represented by the symbol JAC/W, indicates this heat dissipation capability. Similarly, the temperature of an IC inside its package can be estimated by thermal resistance. Figure 67(a) shows the model of the thermal resistance of a package. The equation below shows how to compute for the Thermal resistance (JA), given the ambient temperature (TA), maximum junction temperature (Tjmax), and power dissipation (PD). JA = (TjmaxTA) / PD C/W The Derating Curve in Figure 67(b) indicates the power that the IC can consume with reference to ambient temperature. Power consumption of the IC begins to attenuate at certain temperatures. This gradient is determined by Thermal resistance (JA), which depends on the chip size, power consumption, package, ambient temperature, package condition, wind velocity, etc. This may also vary even when the same of package is used. Thermal reduction curve indicates a reference value measured at a specified condition. Figures 67(c) to (f) show the examples of derating curves for LM358xxx, LM2904xxx, LM324xxx, and LM2902xxx respectively. Power Dissipation of LSI [W] PDmax Power dissipation of IC JA=(Tjmax-TA)/ PD C/W Ambient Temperature, TA [ C ] P2 JA2 < JA1 JA2 P1 Tjmax JA1 0 Chip Surface Temperature, TJ [ C ] 25 50 100 125 150 (b) Derating Curve (a) Thermal Resistance 1.0 1.0 0.8 0.8 LM358F (Note 20) Power Dissipation [W] Power Dissipation [W] 75 Ambient Temperature, TA [ C ] LM358FJ (Note 21) 0.6 LM358FVT (Note 22) LM358FV (Note 22) 0.4 LM358FVJ (Note 23) LM358FVM (Note 23) 0.2 LM2904FVT (Note 22) LM2904FV (Note 22) 0.6 LM2904F (Note 20) LM2904FJ (Note 21) 0.4 LM2904FVJ(Note 23) LM2904FVM (Note 23) 0.2 0.0 0 25 50 75 85 100 125 Ambient Temperature [C] 0.0 150 (c) LM358xxx 25 50 75 100 125 Ambient Temperature [C] 150 (d) LM2904xxx www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 0 27/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx 1.5 1.5 1.2 1.2 LM2902FJ (Note 25) Power Dissipation [W] Power Dissipation [W] LM324FJ (Note 25) 0.9 LM324FV (Note 26) LM324FVJ (Note 27) 0.6 LM324F (Note 24) 0.3 25 LM2902FV (Note 26) LM2902FVJ (Note 27) 0.6 LM2902F (Note 24) 0.3 0.0 0 0.9 0.0 85 50 75 100 125 Ambient Temperature [C] (e) LM324xxx 150 0 25 50 75 100 125 Ambient Temperature [C] (f) LM2902xxx 150 Note 20 Note 21 Note 22 Note 23 Note 24 Note 25 Note 26 Note 27 Unit 5.5 5.4 5.0 4.7 4.5 8.2 7.0 6.8 mW/C When using the unit above TA=25C, subtract the value above per Celsius degree. Power dissipation is the value when FR4 glass epoxy board 70mmx70mmx1.6mm (copper foil area below 3%) is mounted. Figure 67. Thermal Resistance and Derating Curve www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 28/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Operational Notes 1. Reverse Connection of Power Supply Connecting the power supply in reverse polarity can damage the IC. Take precautions against reverse polarity when connecting the power supply, such as mounting an external diode between the power supply and the IC's power supply pins. 2. Power Supply Lines Design the PCB layout pattern to provide low impedance supply lines. Separate the ground and supply lines of the digital and analog blocks to prevent noise in the ground and supply lines of the digital block from affecting the analog block. Furthermore, connect a capacitor to ground at all power supply pins. Consider the effect of temperature and aging on the capacitance value when using electrolytic capacitors. 3. Ground Voltage Ensure that no pins are at a voltage below that of the ground pin at any time, even during transient condition. 4. Ground Wiring Pattern When using both small-signal and large-current ground traces, the two ground traces should be routed separately but connected to a single ground at the reference point of the application board to avoid fluctuations in the small-signal ground caused by large currents. Also ensure that the ground traces of external components do not cause variations on the ground voltage. The ground lines must be as short and thick as possible to reduce line impedance. 5. Thermal Consideration Should by any chance the power dissipation rating be exceeded the rise in temperature of the chip may result in deterioration of the properties of the chip. The absolute maximum rating of the PD stated in this specification is when the IC is mounted on a 70mm x 70mm x 1.6mm glass epoxy board. In case of exceeding this absolute maximum rating, increase the board size and copper area to prevent exceeding the PD rating. 6. Recommended Operating Conditions These conditions represent a range within which the expected characteristics of the IC can be approximately obtained. The electrical characteristics are guaranteed under the conditions of each parameter. 7. In-rush Current When power is first supplied to the IC, it is possible that the internal logic may be unstable and inrush current may flow instantaneously due to the internal powering sequence and delays, especially if the IC has more than one power supply. Therefore, give special consideration to power coupling capacitance, power wiring, width of ground wiring, and routing of connections. 8. Operation Under Strong Electromagnetic Field Operating the IC in the presence of a strong electromagnetic field may cause the IC to malfunction. 9. Testing on Application Boards When testing the IC on an application board, connecting a capacitor directly to a low-impedance output pin may subject the IC to stress. Always discharge capacitors completely after each process or step. The IC's power supply should always be turned off completely before connecting or removing it from the test setup during the inspection process. To prevent damage from static discharge, ground the IC during assembly and use similar precautions during transport and storage. 10. Inter-pin Short and Mounting Errors Ensure that the direction and position are correct when mounting the IC on the PCB. Incorrect mounting may result in damaging the IC. Avoid nearby pins being shorted to each other especially to ground, power supply and output pin. Inter-pin shorts could be due to many reasons such as metal particles, water droplets (in very humid environment) and unintentional solder bridge deposited in between pins during assembly to name a few. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 29/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Operational Notes - continued 11. Regarding the Input Pin of the IC This monolithic IC contains P+ isolation and P substrate layers between adjacent elements in order to keep them isolated. P-N junctions are formed at the intersection of the P layers with the N layers of other elements, creating a parasitic diode or transistor. For example (refer to figure below): When GND > Pin A and GND > Pin B, the P-N junction operates as a parasitic diode. When GND > Pin B, the P-N junction operates as a parasitic transistor. Parasitic diodes inevitably occur in the structure of the IC. The operation of parasitic diodes can result in mutual interference among circuits, operational faults, or physical damage. Therefore, conditions that cause these diodes to operate, such as applying a voltage lower than the GND voltage to an input pin (and thus to the P substrate) should be avoided. Figure 68. Example of monolithic IC structure www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 30/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information Package Name SOP8 (Max 5.35 (include.BURR)) (UNIT : mm) PKG : SOP8 Drawing No. : EX112-5001-1 <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 2500pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 31/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name SOP-J8 <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 2500pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 32/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name SSOP-B8 <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 2500pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 33/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name TSSOP-B8 <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 3000pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 34/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name TSSOP-B8J <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 2500pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 35/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name MSOP8 <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 3000pcs Direction of feed TR The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper right when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand ) 1pin Direction of feed Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 36/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name SOP14 (UNIT : mm) PKG : SOP14 Drawing No. : EX113-5001 <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 2500pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 37/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name SOP-J14 <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 2500pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 38/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name SSOP-B14 <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 2500pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 39/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Physical Dimensions, Tape and Reel Information - continued Package Name TSSOP-B14J <Tape and Reel information> Tape Embossed carrier tape Quantity 2500pcs Direction of feed E2 The direction is the 1pin of product is at the upper left when you hold ( reel on the left hand and you pull out the tape on the right hand Direction of feed 1pin Reel Order quantity needs to be multiple of the minimum quantity. www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 ) 40/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Ordering Information L M x x x Part Number LM358F LM358FJ LM358FV LM358FVT LM358FVJ LM358FVM LM324F LM324FJ LM324FV LM324FVJ LM2904F LM2904FJ LM2904FV LM2904FVT LM2904FVJ LM2904FVM LM2902F LM2902FJ LM2902FV LM2902FVJ x x x - x Package F : SOP8 : SOP14 FJ : SOP-J8 : SOP-J14 FV : SSOP-B8 : SSOP-B14 FVT : TSSOP-B8 FVJ : TSSOP-B8J : TSSOP-B14J FVM : MSOP8 x Packaging and forming specification E2: Embossed tape and reel (SOP8/SOP-J8/SSOP-B8/ TSSOP-B8/ SOP14/SOP-J14/ SSOP-B14/TSSOP-B14J) TR: Embossed tape and reel (MSOP8) Line-up Operating Temperature Range Channel 2ch -40C to +85C 4ch 2ch -40C to +125C 4ch Package Reel of 2500 LM358F-E2 SOP-J8 Reel of 2500 LM358FJ-E2 SSOP-B8 Reel of 2500 LM358FV-E2 TSSOP-B8 Reel of 3000 LM358FVT-E2 TSSOP-B8J Reel of 2500 LM358FVJ-E2 MSOP8 Reel of 3000 LM358FVM-TR SOP14 Reel of 2500 LM324F-E2 SOP-J14 Reel of 2500 LM324FJ-E2 SSOP-B14 Reel of 2500 LM324FV-E2 TSSOP-B14J Reel of 2500 LM324FVJ-E2 SOP8 Reel of 2500 LM2904F-E2 SOP-J8 Reel of 2500 LM2904FJ-E2 SSOP-B8 Reel of 2500 LM2904FV-E2 TSSOP-B8 Reel of 3000 LM2904FVT-E2 TSSOP-B8J Reel of 2500 LM2904FVJ-E2 MSOP8 Reel of 3000 LM2904FVM-TR SOP14 Reel of 2500 LM2902F-E2 SOP-J14 Reel of 2500 LM2902FJ-E2 SSOP-B14 Reel of 2500 LM2902FV-E2 TSSOP-B14J Reel of 2500 LM2902FVJ-E2 www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 Orderable Part Number SOP8 41/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Marking Diagram SOP8(TOP VIEW) SOP-J8(TOP VIEW) TSSOP-B8(TOP VIEW) Part Number Marking Part Number Marking LOT Number LOT Number 1PIN MARK 1PIN MARK SSOP-B8(TOP VIEW) Part Number Marking Part Number Marking LOT Number LOT Number 1PIN MARK SOP14(TOP VIEW) 1PIN MARK TSSOP-B8J(TOP VIEW) Part Number Marking Part Number Marking LOT Number LOT Number 1PIN MARK SOP-J14(TOP VIEW) Part Number Marking 1PIN MARK MSOP8(TOP VIEW) Part Number Marking LOT Number LOT Number 1PIN MARK 1PIN MARK SSOP-B14(TOP VIEW) Part Number Marking TSSOP-B14J (TOP VIEW) Part Number Marking LOT Number LOT Number 1PIN MARK 1PIN MARK www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 42/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Marking Diagram - continued Product Name LM358 LM324 LM2904 LM2902 Package Type Marking F SOP8 FJ SOP-J8 FV SSOP-B8 FVT TSSOP-B8 FVJ TSSOP-B8J FVM MSOP8 F SOP14 LM324F FJ SOP-J14 LM324FJ FV SSOP-B14 FVJ TSSOP-B14J F SOP8 FJ SOP-J8 FV SSOP-B8 FVT TSSOP-B8 FVJ TSSOP-B8J FVM MSOP8 F SOP14 LM2902F FJ SOP-J14 LM2902FJ FV SSOP-B14 FVJ TSSOP-B14J www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 43/44 358L 324L 2904L 04L 2904L 2902L TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 LM358xxx LM324xxx LM2904xxx Datasheet LM2902xxx Revision History Date Revision Changes 10.Jul.2015 001 New Release 09.Oct.2015 002 LM358FJ, LM358FV, LM358FVT, and LM324F are added 10.Feb.2016 003 LM2904xxx (F, FJ, FV, FVT, FVM, FVJ), and LM358xxx (FVM, FVJ) are added 06.Jun.2016 004 LM324xxx (FJ, FV, FVJ), and LM2902xxx (F, FJ, FV, FVJ) are added 01.Aug.2016 005 Correction of erroneous description (P.4 Icc Full Range 1.52.5mA) Delete Land Pattern Data(P.44) www.rohm.com (c)2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. TSZ2211115001 44/44 TSZ02201-0GMG0G200190-1-2 01.Aug.2016 Rev.005 Notice Precaution on using ROHM Products 1. Our Products are designed and manufactured for application in ordinary electronic equipments (such as AV equipment, OA equipment, telecommunication equipment, home electronic appliances, amusement equipment, etc.). If you (Note 1) intend to use our Products in devices requiring extremely high reliability (such as medical equipment , transport equipment, traffic equipment, aircraft/spacecraft, nuclear power controllers, fuel controllers, car equipment including car accessories, safety devices, etc.) and whose malfunction or failure may cause loss of human life, bodily injury or serious damage to property ("Specific Applications"), please consult with the ROHM sales representative in advance. Unless otherwise agreed in writing by ROHM in advance, ROHM shall not be in any way responsible or liable for any damages, expenses or losses incurred by you or third parties arising from the use of any ROHM's Products for Specific Applications. (Note1) Medical Equipment Classification of the Specific Applications JAPAN USA EU CHINA CLASS CLASSb CLASS CLASS CLASS CLASS 2. ROHM designs and manufactures its Products subject to strict quality control system. However, semiconductor products can fail or malfunction at a certain rate. Please be sure to implement, at your own responsibilities, adequate safety measures including but not limited to fail-safe design against the physical injury, damage to any property, which a failure or malfunction of our Products may cause. The following are examples of safety measures: [a] Installation of protection circuits or other protective devices to improve system safety [b] Installation of redundant circuits to reduce the impact of single or multiple circuit failure 3. Our Products are designed and manufactured for use under standard conditions and not under any special or extraordinary environments or conditions, as exemplified below. Accordingly, ROHM shall not be in any way responsible or liable for any damages, expenses or losses arising from the use of any ROHM's Products under any special or extraordinary environments or conditions. If you intend to use our Products under any special or extraordinary environments or conditions (as exemplified below), your independent verification and confirmation of product performance, reliability, etc, prior to use, must be necessary: [a] Use of our Products in any types of liquid, including water, oils, chemicals, and organic solvents [b] Use of our Products outdoors or in places where the Products are exposed to direct sunlight or dust [c] Use of our Products in places where the Products are exposed to sea wind or corrosive gases, including Cl2, H2S, NH3, SO2, and NO2 [d] Use of our Products in places where the Products are exposed to static electricity or electromagnetic waves [e] Use of our Products in proximity to heat-producing components, plastic cords, or other flammable items [f] Sealing or coating our Products with resin or other coating materials [g] Use of our Products without cleaning residue of flux (even if you use no-clean type fluxes, cleaning residue of flux is recommended); or Washing our Products by using water or water-soluble cleaning agents for cleaning residue after soldering [h] Use of the Products in places subject to dew condensation 4. The Products are not subject to radiation-proof design. 5. Please verify and confirm characteristics of the final or mounted products in using the Products. 6. In particular, if a transient load (a large amount of load applied in a short period of time, such as pulse. is applied, confirmation of performance characteristics after on-board mounting is strongly recommended. Avoid applying power exceeding normal rated power; exceeding the power rating under steady-state loading condition may negatively affect product performance and reliability. 7. De-rate Power Dissipation depending on ambient temperature. When used in sealed area, confirm that it is the use in the range that does not exceed the maximum junction temperature. 8. Confirm that operation temperature is within the specified range described in the product specification. 9. ROHM shall not be in any way responsible or liable for failure induced under deviant condition from what is defined in this document. Precaution for Mounting / Circuit board design 1. When a highly active halogenous (chlorine, bromine, etc.) flux is used, the residue of flux may negatively affect product performance and reliability. 2. In principle, the reflow soldering method must be used on a surface-mount products, the flow soldering method must be used on a through hole mount products. If the flow soldering method is preferred on a surface-mount products, please consult with the ROHM representative in advance. For details, please refer to ROHM Mounting specification Notice-PGA-E (c) 2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. Rev.003 Precautions Regarding Application Examples and External Circuits 1. If change is made to the constant of an external circuit, please allow a sufficient margin considering variations of the characteristics of the Products and external components, including transient characteristics, as well as static characteristics. 2. You agree that application notes, reference designs, and associated data and information contained in this document are presented only as guidance for Products use. Therefore, in case you use such information, you are solely responsible for it and you must exercise your own independent verification and judgment in the use of such information contained in this document. ROHM shall not be in any way responsible or liable for any damages, expenses or losses incurred by you or third parties arising from the use of such information. Precaution for Electrostatic This Product is electrostatic sensitive product, which may be damaged due to electrostatic discharge. Please take proper caution in your manufacturing process and storage so that voltage exceeding the Products maximum rating will not be applied to Products. Please take special care under dry condition (e.g. Grounding of human body / equipment / solder iron, isolation from charged objects, setting of Ionizer, friction prevention and temperature / humidity control). Precaution for Storage / Transportation 1. Product performance and soldered connections may deteriorate if the Products are stored in the places where: [a] the Products are exposed to sea winds or corrosive gases, including Cl2, H2S, NH3, SO2, and NO2 [b] the temperature or humidity exceeds those recommended by ROHM [c] the Products are exposed to direct sunshine or condensation [d] the Products are exposed to high Electrostatic 2. Even under ROHM recommended storage condition, solderability of products out of recommended storage time period may be degraded. It is strongly recommended to confirm solderability before using Products of which storage time is exceeding the recommended storage time period. 3. Store / transport cartons in the correct direction, which is indicated on a carton with a symbol. Otherwise bent leads may occur due to excessive stress applied when dropping of a carton. 4. Use Products within the specified time after opening a humidity barrier bag. Baking is required before using Products of which storage time is exceeding the recommended storage time period. Precaution for Product Label A two-dimensional barcode printed on ROHM Products label is for ROHM's internal use only. Precaution for Disposition When disposing Products please dispose them properly using an authorized industry waste company. Precaution for Foreign Exchange and Foreign Trade act Since concerned goods might be fallen under listed items of export control prescribed by Foreign exchange and Foreign trade act, please consult with ROHM in case of export. Precaution Regarding Intellectual Property Rights 1. All information and data including but not limited to application example contained in this document is for reference only. ROHM does not warrant that foregoing information or data will not infringe any intellectual property rights or any other rights of any third party regarding such information or data. 2. ROHM shall not have any obligations where the claims, actions or demands arising from the combination of the Products with other articles such as components, circuits, systems or external equipment (including software). 3. No license, expressly or implied, is granted hereby under any intellectual property rights or other rights of ROHM or any third parties with respect to the Products or the information contained in this document. Provided, however, that ROHM will not assert its intellectual property rights or other rights against you or your customers to the extent necessary to manufacture or sell products containing the Products, subject to the terms and conditions herein. Other Precaution 1. This document may not be reprinted or reproduced, in whole or in part, without prior written consent of ROHM. 2. The Products may not be disassembled, converted, modified, reproduced or otherwise changed without prior written consent of ROHM. 3. In no event shall you use in any way whatsoever the Products and the related technical information contained in the Products or this document for any military purposes, including but not limited to, the development of mass-destruction weapons. 4. The proper names of companies or products described in this document are trademarks or registered trademarks of ROHM, its affiliated companies or third parties. Notice-PGA-E (c) 2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. Rev.003 Datasheet General Precaution 1. Before you use our Pro ducts, you are requested to care fully read this document and fully understand its contents. ROHM shall n ot be in an y way responsible or liabl e for fa ilure, malfunction or acci dent arising from the use of a ny ROHM's Products against warning, caution or note contained in this document. 2. All information contained in this docume nt is current as of the issuing date and subj ect to change without any prior notice. Before purchasing or using ROHM's Products, please confirm the la test information with a ROHM sale s representative. 3. The information contained in this doc ument is provi ded on an "as is" basis and ROHM does not warrant that all information contained in this document is accurate an d/or error-free. ROHM shall not be in an y way responsible or liable for an y damages, expenses or losses incurred b y you or third parties resulting from inaccur acy or errors of or concerning such information. Notice - WE (c) 2015 ROHM Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. Rev.001 Datasheet lm358fvj - Web Page Buy Distribution Inventory Part Number Package Unit Quantity Minimum Package Quantity Packing Type Constitution Materials List RoHS lm358fvj TSSOP-B8J 2500 2500 Taping inquiry Yes